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Colour to Half-tone
Sep. 24th, 2009 08:20 amI spent most of yesterday converting a couple of comics from colour/web format, to half-tone/print format. This is part of test for the graphics novels I'm doing for my Masters, which I intend to draw in colour, and then convert much the same way for eventual printing (and later profession publication).
The first comic was Floods and Storms which originally appeared back in 2007 just after the devastating storms that hit the Central Coast of New South Wales. Here's the colour and half-tone versions of page 14:
 Floods & Storms, page 14 (colour version) |  Floods & Storms, page 14 (half-tone version) |
 Laura's Second Life Comics Cover (colour version) |
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The images above are screen shots from Photoshop using "print view". It remains to be seen just how effective the Half-tones will be, especially for the SL stuff. Both comics will be 24 pages long, and be available at the T.I.N.A. Zine/Arts Fair. I still need to work on Hypergraphia #7, which will use a similar format.
Comics for TINA
Apr. 2nd, 2009 10:28 am
The other thing is that I need to do for the masters is create and publish some comics for This Is Not Art.
The past few years I've either not had the money, or not had the material to do this. It was difficult to do anything while I did my Honours as I was focussed on that instead. Most of my comic output has been as Web Comics. However, for my Masters I need to play around with different techniques for the two Graphic Novels before I start creating the artwork for them (this year is all research and scripting) in Black and White.
So with that in mind I think I need to do two things for TINA later this year:
- Produce a 7th issue of Hypergraphia in paper copy; and
- transfer and reformat several of my web comics into B&W paper format.
The theme I have for Hypergraphia is "Frustrations & Lamentations" and will include stories about Pegasus, driving, and coping with dickheads (among others). I did a prototype cover for the next issue a while ago (March last year!), and this will be incorporated into a new cover. More "art as therapy" and more's the better for it.
The web comics I have in mind for colour to B&W reformat are Floods and Storms (24 pages) and Second Life Crisis (7 pages) and perhaps PART 1 of Tales of the Galli (varied number of pages). Altogether I think that will keep me busy until October - especially as I'll still be researching/scripting three days a week and do my regular web comics as well.
We'll see how that goes.
This is Not Art
Oct. 6th, 2008 09:17 amI went to a bit of This Is Just Not Art yesterday.
In particular I went for the Zine Fair, which was supposed to be in Civic Park. It wasn't - instead it was in one of the buildings in the Honey Suckle area. I bought all of $9 worth of zines there. Didn't stay too long, mostly because I really don't like the enclosed space and humdrum of the crowd. I find it hard to stave off a panic attack if I stay there too long. Also though, pretty much same ol' stuff, and there seemed less to interest me there.
I also happen to meet Mitch there who's doing some photo/video work for the festival. I mentioned my Masters and in particular my research project (The Art of the Transformed Self: real and virtual art reflecting gender transition) and she immediately suggested Second Life. Apart from my boarder Kevin (who got interested only after I showed it to him) this is the first person that I've already known (and met) in real life that's in SL (as Misha Seetan)! It was also good to see her anyway. I met Kim on Thursday when I went in with Kevin and Michelle for the opening ceremony.
Otherwise, I haven't bothered much with this year's TINA. I tried going to one talk before the fair, but the speaker (who was talking about her installations in Watt Space) had just cut one set of slides, spoke in a quiet (and hard to hear) voice, and there was no air-conditioning on. Other than that, I also went to Save Our Souls - a panel about focussing and organising one's time. That was good, and I did get something out of it (see next post). I also helped (I hope) someone there called Greg, who's been having panic attacks of late.
Next year's might be different. Part of my masters project will be testing the techniques I intend to use in the graphic novels by sampling them at TINA. I think also, I might convert some of my web comics to print format as well. Might make a big difference as far as the interest I have in the festival.
I left things too late to get to the Graphic Novel panel in time, and thought better of running around to get to the comic jam (which started 35 minutes ago). Decided to go tomorrow (Sunday) instead.
Kevin's gone off for the festival show however, and I hope he has a good time.
THIS IS NOT ART?
Sep. 29th, 2007 09:02 amThis is Not Art has been on since Tuesday, and ends on Monday (a public holiday).
I've been focussed on my artwork earlier in this week, otherwise, well actually I just can't be bothered much this year. I had a look at Saturday's events, and the only two things that interest me are
- Illustration for graphic novels - a master-class with Shaun Tan (who did The Arrival, which I've read and absolutely loved) at noon - 2pm, and
- Festival Club live comics jam at 6pm - 8pm, though it looks like the jam is only between the five artists listed
As usual, there's a bloody long gap between things of interest.
And as before, it's a matter of getting there, and getting back. This would be a good use for the scooter, in that the easiest thing to do is ride it to Glendale / Train Station (Cardiff?), secure it, and then take the bus/train in and back. Hmmm, debating, debating.
The Sunday program has
- Zine and Independent Press Fair at noon - 6pm,
- Post-paper publishing 3:30pm - 4:30pm , and
- Open Source software for community projects at 4pm - 5pm.
Not so sure about the last two. Normally I'll go to the zine fair, but the last two years haven't been really good experiences (back in 2005 I had stuff to sell, and no one bought much and I got a panic attack instead). Got to figure this out.
Zine & Art Fair
Oct. 1st, 2006 07:05 pmWent to the Zine and Art Fair run by This is Not Art (T.I.N.A.) today.
This is about the only TINA event I'm going to this year. More than half of TINA has already gone by and: this year around uni didn't finish a week earlier (so going to Thursday and Friday's events just wasn't on); When the Octapod got a new server I dropped off all the mailing lists; and quite frankly, this year I just couldn't be bothered.
Last year my experience wasn't all that good, including a huge panic attack. Anyway, this year I decided to just take money, not try and sell or trade anything, and go home when done. As turned out, I almost achieved that end.
The first annoyance was my car not starting, despite an eight hour charge last night. Rather than call the NRMA, I caught a bus/train instead. the train was 20 minutes late, but that was OK. I tried to find a local ATM to Civic but the nearest was in the Hunter St Mall. I got insulted by a check out person in the Go-Lo there and that put me in a bad mood.
Rather than go straight to the Fair, I had something to eat in Civic Park and visited the Newcastle Region Art Gallery first. That was a good move, as I got to check out the Experimenta Vanishing Point exhibition, which took up the whole 1st floor. There's some cool stuff at this, including Train No. 8, Shy Painting and Pedestrians. I could sit down in a dark air-conditioned room and enjoy myself - normally a good thing!
Anyway, after that I checked out the Fair. I bought $70 worth of stuff including a $30 copy of Rebel Visions : the underground comix revolution : 1963-1975. Nice book but a heavy tome. I did trade a couple of zines, but only once. Otherwise, despite feeling generally tired, and having my back and right knee hurting, it was OK. Bumped into two or three uni students I know, and some guy who remembered me (but not my name) from 2002. Went home about 3pm via train/bus with a little bit of food and shopping at Glendale.
I think I did the right thing by limiting my involvement this year. Despite initially feeling stressed out, I didn't have any panic attacks and got home at a decent hour. Who knows, next year I might even have something new to sell.
Hands-on festival is touching stuff
Oct. 4th, 2005 08:25 pmSomeone sent me a link to this Article on the Sydney Morning Herald. Seems like some nice coverage of TINA.
TINA This afternoon
Oct. 2nd, 2005 08:54 pmI decided to go to "Men Write from Mars, Women Write from Venus" after all. Only got there for the last 30 minutes. It was basically one person on the panel saying "There is a difference between a 'male' and 'female' voice in writing" and others disputing that. Wasn't terribly interesting, but the air-conditioning was welcome.
I'd worked out a system whereby I didn't need to sit behind a table. I had a long sheet of plywood to which I'd attached the comics by means of bulldog clips, and a big sports bag full of bundled zines. But when I got there I got a bit confused. I walked by "registrations" and they immediately spotted the comics and asked if I wanted a table and apparently it was free for zines and comics (instead of $15) so before I knew it, I was sitting behind a table with my (and Carol's and Susan's) comics on display.
It was odd. I simultaneously felt isolated and also crowded - this year's venue was the street in front of the Watt St Gallery, which was closed at both ends to traffic. At the Hunter St end was a stage for bands, and working back to King St were the stalls of the markets. There seemed little order in how they were laid out. Some people seemed to setting "in front" of their stalls instead of in the "back area". It wasn't as regular as when it'd been inside a building.
I decided to set up next to a van, away from the crowd. The loudness of the music was just freaking me out anyway, and that was as far back as I could get. Then someone from the Indigenous stall laid out a flag on the ground that cut the pathway to my left (and it was latter shifted to be right behind me). Several people turned u[p to say hello, including Helen, Carolyn's daughter (who fixed my PC on Friday).
But I was just freaking out, from the start. This wasn't my plan, and from where I was I couldn't see any other comic / zine sellers at all. I tried to get a handle on it by writing some [poetry, but that didn't work. Then,![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
miss_judith, Thom and Jill turned up.
I was so glad they did. After almost losing it, Judith suggested that I pack up and I did and we went down the road where we had drinks and food. I felt a lot better after a "works" burger in me, and away from the crowd. When we returned I was reorganised and had my comics back on the board, and felt a lot more comfortable in being there.
Only did a nominal amount of selling / trading my comics, though I sold out of Pox #6 (which I expected to). Manners haven't improved. When I asked one guy if I could trade with him, he gave a long and involved explanation that said more or less that he wouldn't because he'd probably never read mine! What was wrong with saying a simple "no, thank you"?
Once I felt I'd had enough, I went over to Civic Park, and bumped into Judith and Jill again (oh, and of course, cute little Quentin, Judith's son). Had a "pluto pup" and a "slush puppy". Then took all the gear back to the car after dropping into the Octapod.
That was on Tin Radio, or 100.5 FM. That as a good experience. I was asked about Queer Stuff and Hypergraphia #6, and was even able to plug Tarot Tuesday. It meant that I could go home on a good note, which I did.
Shan't be going to the events listed for tomorrow. There doesn't seem to be any proper "closing ceremony" but as I never got to the official "opening ceremony" what does that matter. I think instead, I'll probably visit Jenny and watch some videos.
Arts Market / Zine Fair
</>And then, I made a big mistake.I'd worked out a system whereby I didn't need to sit behind a table. I had a long sheet of plywood to which I'd attached the comics by means of bulldog clips, and a big sports bag full of bundled zines. But when I got there I got a bit confused. I walked by "registrations" and they immediately spotted the comics and asked if I wanted a table and apparently it was free for zines and comics (instead of $15) so before I knew it, I was sitting behind a table with my (and Carol's and Susan's) comics on display.
It was odd. I simultaneously felt isolated and also crowded - this year's venue was the street in front of the Watt St Gallery, which was closed at both ends to traffic. At the Hunter St end was a stage for bands, and working back to King St were the stalls of the markets. There seemed little order in how they were laid out. Some people seemed to setting "in front" of their stalls instead of in the "back area". It wasn't as regular as when it'd been inside a building.
I decided to set up next to a van, away from the crowd. The loudness of the music was just freaking me out anyway, and that was as far back as I could get. Then someone from the Indigenous stall laid out a flag on the ground that cut the pathway to my left (and it was latter shifted to be right behind me). Several people turned u[p to say hello, including Helen, Carolyn's daughter (who fixed my PC on Friday).
But I was just freaking out, from the start. This wasn't my plan, and from where I was I couldn't see any other comic / zine sellers at all. I tried to get a handle on it by writing some [poetry, but that didn't work. Then,
miss_judith, Thom and Jill turned up.I was so glad they did. After almost losing it, Judith suggested that I pack up and I did and we went down the road where we had drinks and food. I felt a lot better after a "works" burger in me, and away from the crowd. When we returned I was reorganised and had my comics back on the board, and felt a lot more comfortable in being there.
Only did a nominal amount of selling / trading my comics, though I sold out of Pox #6 (which I expected to). Manners haven't improved. When I asked one guy if I could trade with him, he gave a long and involved explanation that said more or less that he wouldn't because he'd probably never read mine! What was wrong with saying a simple "no, thank you"?
Once I felt I'd had enough, I went over to Civic Park, and bumped into Judith and Jill again (oh, and of course, cute little Quentin, Judith's son). Had a "pluto pup" and a "slush puppy". Then took all the gear back to the car after dropping into the Octapod.
After the Fair
It was a good thing that I did drop into the Octapod. I sold another couple of comics, and got invited to be a "token local" on a radio show. After ditching the stuff at the car, I returned and hung about the remnants of the street fair until I was ready for the radio show. Chatted with a friend from university, and sold some more comics.That was on Tin Radio, or 100.5 FM. That as a good experience. I was asked about Queer Stuff and Hypergraphia #6, and was even able to plug Tarot Tuesday. It meant that I could go home on a good note, which I did.
Shan't be going to the events listed for tomorrow. There doesn't seem to be any proper "closing ceremony" but as I never got to the official "opening ceremony" what does that matter. I think instead, I'll probably visit Jenny and watch some videos.
The Next Hypergraphia
I think I know what the next Hypergraphia will be on. I think I need to do all the conventions, conferences and events that I just couldn't handle, from Swancons to NOWSAs and Zine fairs, and why. Might be something to do for next year. In the meantime I need to figure out how to distribute the comics I've already done. The Zine fair is just not enough.TINA This morning
Oct. 2nd, 2005 12:02 pmI turned up at the Octapod at 10:15am but it was still closed, so I couldn't go to the BookCrossing event for the day. I don't know when they opened it (I'm posting from there right now) as I wandered off to find something else.
For the most part I listened to what the 18-26 year olds were chatting about, which was mostly: how they couldn't see how Hugh Grant could be sexy or popular; room mates screwing in the room (while they were trying to get to sleep) the night before; and making fun at a variety of topics, including Paris Hilton (who apparently was thought to be a "man" because she had thin hips); Thunderbirds, and sundry topics.
Gasp, and I'm envious (maybe) of these folk - they all sounded cosy and air-headed in their own little pockets of expertise and experience. I'm probably no different, but it seemed to me that they all projected an attitude that came with their age group. Oh, and I also got called a man by some dickhead there, which really put me in a good mood.
In any case, I don't want to heft all this about until I'm ready. I can leave the bulk of it here and maybe check out Civic Park, which has stuff for Mattara (rides / food / music) in it. Or I might check out the "Men Write from Mars, Women Write from Venus" panel, which is in the room I just left. It's airconditioned, and the markets run until 5pm.
Art of Comic Book Sound Effects
The something else was the "Art of Comic Book Sound Effects" in the Newcastle room at the Town Hall, which was run by Sarah Hall. There were about half a dozen of us there and the idea was to draw comic book sound effects in a way that would to relate to what they represent. I got pretty bored with this pretty quickly, so I blocked out 7 installments of Sad Heart's Shadow (now all I have to do is draw them).For the most part I listened to what the 18-26 year olds were chatting about, which was mostly: how they couldn't see how Hugh Grant could be sexy or popular; room mates screwing in the room (while they were trying to get to sleep) the night before; and making fun at a variety of topics, including Paris Hilton (who apparently was thought to be a "man" because she had thin hips); Thunderbirds, and sundry topics.
Gasp, and I'm envious (maybe) of these folk - they all sounded cosy and air-headed in their own little pockets of expertise and experience. I'm probably no different, but it seemed to me that they all projected an attitude that came with their age group. Oh, and I also got called a man by some dickhead there, which really put me in a good mood.
Plans
It's really hot outside. I might bide my time here before hitting the Arts Market. I sorted all the comics into rubber band bundles, each with an identifying tag, and they're all in a sports bag. Then I attached sample comics to a plywood strip using bulldog clips, so I could display what was in the bag. It works, but is a bit clumsy. Maybe next year I will need a stall.In any case, I don't want to heft all this about until I'm ready. I can leave the bulk of it here and maybe check out Civic Park, which has stuff for Mattara (rides / food / music) in it. Or I might check out the "Men Write from Mars, Women Write from Venus" panel, which is in the room I just left. It's airconditioned, and the markets run until 5pm.
Better than expected
Oct. 1st, 2005 08:56 pmWell, the reading went better than I expected.
Didn't get away from home until 11am. Got to the city at 11:30, and as the reading wasn't until 12:30pm, I went for a wander. had some lunch, (and bumped into Thom while he was taking a break from his work) and wandered back at 12:20pm. I met Sophie outside the venue (which sucked harshly because of location, and the fact that our readings were competing with a cappuccino machine), and then Bugsy turned up, as did Kim, and maybe a 1/2 dozen folk to listen.
We filled the whole hour. I read: "Girls, Like Me"; "Bitters Edge"; "On the Beach" (prose); and "A light was seen". Sophie also read the first sixth of my "Self Help" which she though was about a transgender support group, but which (if she'd bothered to read it all) was actually about Werewolves!
But I had a good time. Afterwards Sophie, myself, Kim and Bugsy all went around to the venue for the presentation next Friday. I was able to see how to present my comics there, and we discussed other issues with Dean, and it was fun. Afterwards we had coffee (and I got some chocolate cake - yum) and blocked out which bits of my comics would be used next week.
Then I dropped Kim off in Darby St, popped into the Octapod to use their toilets and drop off copies of my comics for their Zine Library. Apart from the reading, I haven;'t been to a single other TINA event. They're closing up here in a few minutes, and I might have a wander over to the PAN building, but it's straight home after that. I checked out the program, and there's nothing on from now 'til tonight that interests me.
Back tomorrow for the Arts Market / Zine Fair! :-)
Afterwards I had a look at the Watt Space Gallery. Usual sort of stuff in there, but I was really taken by the art in the Locker Room - which was openly gay and out. I also chatted with Luke, one of the artists who created it, and was suitably impressed with their clarity and detail. They created a toilet cubicle mock-up with appropriate grafitti. Very clever.
I also dropped into the PAN building but they had a some panel speaking through a bad P.A. system, and a too crowded venue -- I wasn't impressed. Went home and fed the pets instead.
Didn't get away from home until 11am. Got to the city at 11:30, and as the reading wasn't until 12:30pm, I went for a wander. had some lunch, (and bumped into Thom while he was taking a break from his work) and wandered back at 12:20pm. I met Sophie outside the venue (which sucked harshly because of location, and the fact that our readings were competing with a cappuccino machine), and then Bugsy turned up, as did Kim, and maybe a 1/2 dozen folk to listen.
We filled the whole hour. I read: "Girls, Like Me"; "Bitters Edge"; "On the Beach" (prose); and "A light was seen". Sophie also read the first sixth of my "Self Help" which she though was about a transgender support group, but which (if she'd bothered to read it all) was actually about Werewolves!
But I had a good time. Afterwards Sophie, myself, Kim and Bugsy all went around to the venue for the presentation next Friday. I was able to see how to present my comics there, and we discussed other issues with Dean, and it was fun. Afterwards we had coffee (and I got some chocolate cake - yum) and blocked out which bits of my comics would be used next week.
Then I dropped Kim off in Darby St, popped into the Octapod to use their toilets and drop off copies of my comics for their Zine Library. Apart from the reading, I haven;'t been to a single other TINA event. They're closing up here in a few minutes, and I might have a wander over to the PAN building, but it's straight home after that. I checked out the program, and there's nothing on from now 'til tonight that interests me.
Back tomorrow for the Arts Market / Zine Fair! :-)
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Afterwards I had a look at the Watt Space Gallery. Usual sort of stuff in there, but I was really taken by the art in the Locker Room - which was openly gay and out. I also chatted with Luke, one of the artists who created it, and was suitably impressed with their clarity and detail. They created a toilet cubicle mock-up with appropriate grafitti. Very clever.
I also dropped into the PAN building but they had a some panel speaking through a bad P.A. system, and a too crowded venue -- I wasn't impressed. Went home and fed the pets instead.
Annoying Sense of "Don't Go There"
Oct. 1st, 2005 07:31 amI'm annoyed. The only panel I really absolutely wanted to go to -- My Comic is Stillborn -- was on yesterday at 5pm. That time, I was only just getting away from Carolyn's. I'm debating what to do today. I have to go to Gender X Genre as I'm reading poetry there, but this is on between 12:30 to 1:30 pm, and afterwards I need to go to the Empire to check out the venue for the 2nd showing of this for Rainbow Visions. That means I can't go to: Grants, Sponsorship, Philanthropy Advertising; Character vs Plot; or even Comics: Letting Down the Revolution.. Maybe that's a good thing, I don't know.
For some reason I feel annoyed and angry at this year's T.I.N.A. I don't understand just why, but I recognise the feelings -- I used to have them when I'd go to SF Conventions back in Perth (like![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-community.gif)
swancon). I used to go to those things expecting so much, and every time I'd come away bitter and disappointed. Something definitely weird going on in my head space.
Where is this coming from? Why am I angry? Is it just me being sick? What's making me bitter?
Anyway, the only other thing I wanted to go to today (apart from the book crossing stuff, which I could do tomorrow), is Creative Commons vs Copyright, at 3:30pm. Nothing much after that appeals to me, and in any case I have to come home and feed the pets. Ah, bugger it!
For some reason I feel annoyed and angry at this year's T.I.N.A. I don't understand just why, but I recognise the feelings -- I used to have them when I'd go to SF Conventions back in Perth (like
swancon). I used to go to those things expecting so much, and every time I'd come away bitter and disappointed. Something definitely weird going on in my head space. Where is this coming from? Why am I angry? Is it just me being sick? What's making me bitter?
Anyway, the only other thing I wanted to go to today (apart from the book crossing stuff, which I could do tomorrow), is Creative Commons vs Copyright, at 3:30pm. Nothing much after that appeals to me, and in any case I have to come home and feed the pets. Ah, bugger it!
Neon Night
Sep. 28th, 2005 10:34 pmEverything was late today. I got away from the house late, finished up at uni late, and got home late. I went to Neon before coming home, and it wasn't on. This time there were five of us all waiting outside for something to happen, but no one showed up to open up ACON.
After waiting for a while , I wrote a note and slipped it under the door, and we all left. I went to the Octapod with Jamie where we picked up some programs for TINA. Had a good chat with her on the way to her place. It's nice to compare notes with someone else who seems to have no social life either. And she was some I could talk to about feeling sexually frustrated.
That helps.
Did some minor shopping on the way home, and didn't get back until 9:30pm. Fed the pets, and have been watching an animation doco on SBS (which should be followed by an animated film).
Been an awkward, long day. I hope tomorrow's better.
After waiting for a while , I wrote a note and slipped it under the door, and we all left. I went to the Octapod with Jamie where we picked up some programs for TINA. Had a good chat with her on the way to her place. It's nice to compare notes with someone else who seems to have no social life either. And she was some I could talk to about feeling sexually frustrated.
That helps.
Did some minor shopping on the way home, and didn't get back until 9:30pm. Fed the pets, and have been watching an animation doco on SBS (which should be followed by an animated film).
Been an awkward, long day. I hope tomorrow's better.
Slightly Cheered Up
Sep. 28th, 2005 03:32 pmNothing cheers me up more than reprinting my comics, which I've just done.
I reprinted 20 copies of Hypergarphia #1 and #3. There's not much in #1 (16 pages) but #3 was a "watershed" issue for me, and one which I'm known for in queer student collectives (well, at least in two).![[Front covers of #1 (rear) and #3]](https://p.dreamwidth.org/8afed9c3cae8/524223-16331/www.geocities.com/laura_seabrook/pics/LJCommunity/hypergraphia1and3.gif)
We'll see...
I reprinted 20 copies of Hypergarphia #1 and #3. There's not much in #1 (16 pages) but #3 was a "watershed" issue for me, and one which I'm known for in queer student collectives (well, at least in two).
We'll see...
Hypergraphia #4
Sep. 15th, 2005 04:38 pmYeah, something else to cheer me up - reprinting Hypergraphia # 4. I printed 20 copies of this years ago in A4 format (this version's in A5) but that cost the earth and never got any distribution. Also, this is part 1 of a story. Part 2 is issue five, and now I have them both printed, it'll make more sense.
T.I.N.A. is less than a fortnight away, and for once I have something to sell / trade. Should I print # 3 as well (the "Sex & Gender" issue)?
T.I.N.A. is less than a fortnight away, and for once I have something to sell / trade. Should I print # 3 as well (the "Sex & Gender" issue)?
Down at NUSA today I did a test run on my masters for Hypergraphia #4 and 5, to see if I could print them in A5 format. Issue #4 is portrait, and #5 (actually part two of #4) is in landscape. It took a bit of juggling (especially with #4 because of the extensive use of photos) but it can be done!
At the very least, I can reprint 25 copies of #4, and print (for the first time) the same amount of #5. Yahoo -- I'm actually going to have something to take to the Zine Fair this year.
At the very least, I can reprint 25 copies of #4, and print (for the first time) the same amount of #5. Yahoo -- I'm actually going to have something to take to the Zine Fair this year.
